And the industry adapts and there are those that sell gimmicks and those that use what really works, and we like to be one of the companies that – even if we make less money because we don’t sell a gimmick, I’d rather promote somebody else’s product that works over a marketing gimmick that’s not gonna work. Basically, the Red Jacket thing was just kind of a distraction for a couple of years. I shot a .22 rim fire. And I have yet to see what the disadvantage is of direct gas if you use proper components and you maintain your weapon to some extent. There are many new names in the industry these days. It’s particularly cool because there’s not a whole lot of that right in this area here. Cost: $2400 for fixed stock 7.62x39 AKM. I was wondering if you could tell us about your family? Mesa Kinetic Research was founded by Vincent Buckles in November 2011. And it’s kind of an homage to another guy who came up with it on the spur of the moment and it became an iconic name. The two day build class includes includes all parts, barrel,  reciever, hands on instruction, access to professional tooling and a cerakote finish applied by MKR. Vince: Pretty much. But in the end, we both got our companies to run and we realize that there’s plenty of money out there for everybody. I’m very grateful for that. What is your thought of what the best systems are? Vince: Basically what happened is when this last season of Sons of Guns came out back in April, we went from doing a lot more consulting work to a lot more custom rifle builds. Scam School shows you how to become a Human Chimney. ... Vince Buckles – Former chief gunsmith of the store, left Red Jacket at the end of season 2, now works part-time as an outside contractor. While Ted Nugent brings some energy and good cheer to Red Jacket Firearms, Vince boils over and stomps out when Kris asks for help on the Vegas build that Vince feels should have been his. If you ask my wife, I pretty much work from about 8:30 every morning until 10:30/11:00 at night in one facet or another. It was a story of American triumph—but by the end, it uncovered a legacy of tragedy. Vince: I was 22 years old when I went to a Pennsylvania gunsmithing school. We do a lot of long range tactical stuff that can obviously be transferred over into the hunting world or the bench rest world. We did stuff with Mag Tactical Systems with their suppressor systems and their Mag Alloy billet lowers. Vince: I mean old school family. What I don’t think gets said enough is that it doesn’t matter what Will Hayden or myself said about each other on TV, what matters is we both stand for the Second Amendment and the right to bear arms in this country, and are completely against any government infringement of the law abiding citizens right to bear arms. So that will probably be going through Cerakote Monday and then reassembled Tuesday. We do have our dreams for the future, but you can’t just dream about the future, you’ve got to enjoy today. Vince: I believe the first time I ever fired a real gun was in Cub Scout Pack 1024 when I was about 8 years old. 'Sons of Guns' star Will Hayden gets life in prison for rape of two young girls. 4140 billet receiver with ambi QD sockets, Polish military bolt and carrier - no commercial WBP junk. In fact. Vince: I know the article is not about a TV show but it’s kind of hard to write an article about any of us without mentioning a TV show. And I think there’s definitely a lot of competition still between Red Jacket and myself of who can do this first or who can do that first. I think the piston system is a marketing thing, and that’s all it is. Vince is an incredibly talented gunsmith and armorer. SAR: I don’t know if there’s a definition of a normal family. Following his arrest, two other cast members … By Christopher R. Bartocci SAR: What was the first place that you worked as a full-time gunsmith? I knew I wanted to have something with Kinetic Research, kinetic obviously being the energy transferred by a bullet or projectile or explosive, and I wanted the kinetic research. So I fully enjoy just being the behind the scenes consultant for some of these other companies. It wasn’t a specialty that I particularly enjoyed doing. Vince: I’ll only tell you this story because you’re Small Arms Review. For day 3 we will head to the range where Larry Vickers will take over as instructor for an all day AK shooting package. 4150 nitride barrel with custom gas port tuning for low felt recoil and improved service life. Vince was a machinist who went to gunsmithing school in Pennsylvania for two years and then settled down for a change in lifestyle to the Cajun country of Louisiana. And one of the motivating factors that he had to offer me and that I went for is it gave me TV exposure to get my name out there, not just regionally like it was, but nationally and internationally. Vince: I worked for another company here in Baton Rouge after Ryerson’s for about five years, and I left there in like February of 2010 – it was the day after the Saints won the Super Bowl, I left. This course includes a two day AK build class taught by Vincent Buckles in Gonzales LA as well as a one day AK operators class taught by Larry Vickers at our local private range. Vince was a machinist who went to gunsmithing school in Pennsylvania for two years and then settled down for a change in lifestyle to the Cajun country of Louisiana. In 2011, Vincent and Red Jacket Firearms gained international recognition on the hit reality tv series Sons of Guns which aired until 2014 on Discovery. The Swiss 550, SIG 556 that was cool, but the geometry of the M16, AR-15 is completely wrong for any kind of piston. A rep for the show said that they “have not announced” a fifth season of “Sons of Guns.” “There was some concern about cancelation,” star Vince Buckles told FOX411’s Pop Tarts. I can change a diaper, but I don’t know what she wants in the diaper bag, just as she’s not going to pack my range bag, or my briefcase to roll out to SHOT Show. We’d never actually formally met, but he called me up and his exact words were, “Hey, you want to come in this weekend and put together a couple of rifles for me?” And I was like, “Sure, what are they?” He said, “AKs.” Well it turned out there were like twenty Saiga 12 shotguns that had been worked on and gone through their finishing process that they use there and I basically just had to reassemble about twenty Saiga shotguns. The allegations have prompted the cancellation of his Discovery Channel series. I still do a fair amount of consulting work, but it just generally doesn’t get done during business hours; it either gets done on the road, or from the telephone, or computer afterhours. I was working there full-time and I worked there for about two and a half years, and then just eventually moved on from that company. But we’ve got the roles worked out really well. And then I also liked the Magpul Masada, but I know one of the engineers that designed the Masada and I know where the corners got cut, and the corners got cut by the company that produced it, not by the engineers. As Will Hayden and crew ran operations of Red Jacket Firearms, the Discovery Channel followed their custom gun crafting for five seasons from 2011 to 2014, until Hayden was charged with multiple counts of rape. I was there for the very humble Red Jacket that was before TV. And Sunday afternoon is pretty much the only time that anyone can say “Hey, I need you for a minute”. I guess we’re covered in tattoos so people don’t really think that. There he honed his skills working on high priced shotguns as an engraver and wood worker but his true passion was tactical rifles. I do a fair amount myself but I’m doing TV again now, so that does take up some time. Larry will also be building his own AK alongside the rest of the class. SAR: In your new company now, what would you say is your primary business? I’ve got probably the best road frontage that I could possibly ask for the retail end of things; and also a very easy place to find for customers that need to come by and find it for any of our other services. Mesa Kinetic Research was founded by Vincent Buckles in November 2011. SAR: Where do you see the future of Mesa Kinetic? And it’s not something that I want credit for, but it’s more of free advice. Add Polish underfolder  stock to build: $100, Add triangle side folding stock to build: $200, Add Ultimak railed gas tube for optics mounting $100, For registration or more information please call (225) 450-3019, Half down deposit required to reserve a seat. SAR: When did you actually open up a shop here? I don’t want to get too big too quickly. It was kind of like the Saints just won the Super Bowl and they beat the Colts, and it was an omen that I needed a change. May 12, 2017, 9:38 AM. Built on a Sharps Bros MB-47 4140 billet receiver, this perfectly-balanced workhorse pairs East and West in a manner unseen since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Vince graduated from Pennsylvania Gunsmith School in early 2004 and immediately began his professional career in Baton Rouge LA, It wasn’t long before he became well known in South Louisiana for his technical aptitude and ability to troubleshoot mechanical issues. “But is he gone for good?” writer Kirk Denkler asks. You do what you’re good at and what the demand is for, and then eventually through Sons of Guns some more of my passions like working with more tactical firearms actually got exploited at the national and international level, and that’s predominantly what I do nowadays. You know like I have to make sure that I have retail inventory; that I’ve got gun shows that we travel and do; I’ve got freaking appointments out of state that I’ve got to be at; I’ve got customers’ guns to finish here; and then I make time for folks like you that come by; and then I’ve got a TV show to shoot on top of it. Please contact us for details. It comes with this really long booklet about the entire history of the company, and the dude who started Mesa Boogie and how he got the name. Every day that I look at my shop now I think this isn’t as nice as what you see on TV with Red Jacket but it’s nicer than what we had at Red Jacket before we had TV. Honestly, now when I hear the word “Mesa,” now it just automatically relates to our company and it just kind of became something that now attaches to us. I’ve had people be like, “Don’t you want to help your wife get the diaper bag together?” And I look at them and say, “Dude, that is not my department.” My department is making stuff going bang and making it work right, and running a business. Then we have two children together. I picked up everything I owned in Michigan and moved to Pittsburgh for a year and a half of full-time, 45 hour a week training and then moved to Louisiana straight after that. I have goals to move to a bigger facility where we can do more, but right now I think the best thing is to dig in and adapt to the facility that we have, the area that we’re in. We are closed the first two weeks of July and most major holidays. SAR: One thing I noticed from the show is you’re definitely a family man. There’s a reason those things don’t get said on TV, and it’s because nobody wants to watch Vince and Will talk nice about each other on TV. Vincent Buckles is available for private or private-group AK armorer instruction, build classes, and other gunsmithing instruction or consulting. And when they were filling out his work order to pull it out from the warehouse they said, “What’s the name of your company?” But he didn’t have a company name and he was afraid that they wouldn’t sell to him if he didn’t have a company, so he said “Mesa Engineering” – that just came off the top of his head. The listed officers of the LLC are Joseph Whitney Meaux, Vincent Gordon Buckles, and Charles Riley Watson; neither Will Hayden nor Stephanie Hayden are listed as officers. Late in 2011, Vincent left Red Jacket and formed Mesa Kinetic Research with the goal of producing high-end AK platform rifles using production techniques and tooling superior to those he had been exposed to at RJF. So that was pretty much the big factors in putting my dream aside to help somebody else’s was the fact that in the end it would benefit me and my family as well. All federal firearms laws apply. And just the more I got into them, the more my dad got into them, and now I’d say that he probably has more guns than I do. I’m not really a fan of the Saiga shotgun and I really didn’t want to have anything to do with them if that was what I was going to have to be doing at Red Jacket. SAR: Is there anything else you want people to know about you? I probably do ten full AK builds myself a week. Our Story Mesa Kinetic Research LLC was founded in November of 2011 by Vincent Buckles in Gonzales, LA. Just when you thought the Will Hayden story couldn’t get much more sordid, it does.“ Stephanie Hayden is now claiming she too was sexually abused as a child by her father, Will Hayden … and will be providing information to law enforcement to aid in the prosecution of her dad.” tmz.com reports. While the camera recording the show is unflinching and shows almost everything, it missed a key part of Buckles life. I think of consulting as just talking, but a trouble shooting and consulting role. SAR: What was your first exposure to firearms? I don’t know if you’d call us a normal family... SAR: The tactical end of it? We’re not a standard gun store. My family was not a firearms owning family when I was growing up – my parents didn’t own firearms. SAR: More consulting role? We do a ton of that. I’ve been working with some different training companies on augmenting some of their methods. When I left school, I was not presented with that opportunity immediately. Jennifer Kline. Vince: Piston AR is an answer to a question that nobody within their right mind ever asked. Base Camp Management’s client cast of Sons of Guns Season Two have been announced: Will Hayden, Stephanie Hayden, Kris Ford, Vincent Buckles, Joe Meaux, Charlie Watson, Glenn Harrison and Glenn Fleming are ready for the challenges building custom weapons can bring, deep in the heart of Louisiana. I bought into the business and became a partner. We would tour all the way up to New York and Massachusetts and everything. It was about an 1,800 square foot warehouse that came with a compressor, lathe and mill. I had flown down and interviewed and then I graduated from school and moved down three days after graduating. An article on the Discovery Channel website insinuates that fans may be seeing more of Vince in the near future, when the new season of Sons of Guns begins on Feb. 29. As you mentioned when you were over at Red Jacket, Red Jacket had nice things to say about me, and I’ve got plenty of nice things to say about Red Jacket. In 2011, Vincent and Red Jacket Firearms gained … Referring to "Sons of Guns," which the Discovery Channel canceled in 2014 amid Hayden's legal troubles, Cardia-Porter added, "That show … Sons of Guns (TV Series 2011– ) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. The problem is that we sit on the major highway, directly on the major highway that runs from New Orleans to Baton Rouge. But I mean in real life, we run into each other at functions, run into them at SHOT Show, run into them at NRA banquets. This week on Sons of Guns , hard-rocking, gun-loving Ted Nugent stops by Red Jacket Firearms, gushing over Stephanie and bringing his special brand of energy to the shop. And after about 800 rounds it gets pretty filthy but it still runs, man, and that’s with the suppressor on a 12 inch barrel blowing everything back with corrosive ammo. Khyber Pass Tactical is our retail store in the front of the building. 1 rumble. SAR: Awesome. Some through the great financial backing of a large company, others by putting forth their own wealth to publicize themselves and then there are those who have the talent and had the luck of being in the right place at the right time. What was the first time you fired a gun and what was it? Vince: I’m originally from Detroit, Michigan. William Michale Hayden (born June 24, 1965) is a former American gunsmith, television personality, U.S. Marine, gun shop owner, and convicted child molester. But I'm probably one of the few people that can say they’ve shot a Glock as their first handgun. Vince: Consulting role, if you will – hands on consulting role. Sons of Guns, the Discovery Channel series that ran from 2011 from 2014, centered on a … Our labor for AK kit builds starts at $650 which includes Cerakote finish. I played a lot of different kinds of amplifiers but I settled on a Mesa Boogie Single Rectifier because I really liked it. Red Jacket Firearms fell by the way side and Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C. It was one of those “Hey, want to come help me out for the weekend?” and it turned out to be less than three months later we’re shooting a TV show full-time. 07 FFL / Class 2 SOT. I can only judge by what I saw. I posted a few of the AK kit builds that I had done for myself online, pictures of this is the way an AK should look, and we just had an overwhelming response of AK builds. It’s another bolt-on inferior gun accessory. I have no problem being the behind the scenes unsung hero. 7.9 pounds with balance point at the front of the magazine well. I had my own dreams and goals, but Will kind of sat down and talked to me and said, “We have this TV show in the works, I need someone who is versatile that has a background in versatile gunsmithing that can come in.” I ended up as a partner in the business. To me, Vince bailed on Red Jacket at a time they really needed him. Also, we’re the only full tactical based shop in the greater Baton Rouge area. And while I look forward moving to a larger more modern facility, I want to keep the retail store on site because I think it’s a really neat dynamic to have that. Vince is in fact on many occasions victim to the producers of the show and the need for “Drama.” But prior to going to work at RJF (Red Jacket Firearms), Vince wanted to go on his own and open up his own shop and that is what he eventually did. Vince graduated from Pennsylvania Gunsmith School in early 2004 and immediately began his professional career in Baton Rouge LA,  It wasn’t long before he became well known in South Louisiana for his technical aptitude and ability to troubleshoot mechanical issues. Copyright © 2020 Mesa Kinetic Research  - All Rights Reserved. Perhaps it is time like in any other industry when the new younger innovators start to fill in the ranks with the aging and ready to retire older generation. Sign in and be the first to comment If  you have questions about our  products or services, please give  us a call or stop by! I was engaged at the time to my wife now, and she was pregnant with our daughter, and it was just like, “Dude, I need a change. Help suppport this channel / Shop Amazon: https://amzn.to/31O2hEd The Sons of Guns weapons experts ran a booming business in Louisiana until serious legal scandals rocked the family business. SLR Rifleworks MLOK handguard with ambi QD sockets, Silencerco ASR brake permanently  attached to 16" OAL. Vince bolts from the shop when Kris asks for help on the Desert AR15 assault rifle build. A Friend of The Family Responds To Sons Of Guns Arrest. In addition to our manufacturing and gunsmith services, our onsite retail store Khyber Pass Tactical is open to the public 6 days a week and is stocked with AK parts, AK accessories, friendly faces, and colorful flags. Their father had passed away. Brittany’s a full-time mom. ... the RJF experience launched Vince … This will give our readers a chance to meet the man and not what they think they see on television. So I would definitely like to thank the gentleman who started Mesa Boogie Amplification, not just for making a superior guitar amplifier but also for letting me use the same off-the-cuff company naming as he did back in the 70s. That’s probably one unique thing about me is they’ve never felt weird to me because I shot them in the late 80s when they were first being commissioned by police departments in the U.S. began in May of 2010. When Sons of Guns debuted in 2011 on the Discovery Channel, it was a unique reality show for sure. SAR: When and how did you get hired by Red Jacket? Sons of Guns was a reality show series that aired on Discovery Channel. In that bag right there I’ve got a Smith & Wesson M&P that I did into a post-sample machine gun, chambered in 5.45x39 that I shoot with a suppressor on it, and it’s full-auto. [2] Red Jacket Firearms, located in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, was opened in 1999. We moved in January of 2012 to our old shop up over on Greenwell Springs Road. There’s a TV format that sells and I think Will and I are very good at playing into what will keep people watching the show. While this solved the issue before the show began, Buckles eventually left the company at the end of season 2. Now, I’m all for piston driven firearms and there’s contenders out there for replacement of the U.S. service rifle like the FN scar. This caused a little bit of a scramble for the company and the show. A life-long admirer of  the great American innovator and captain of industry Henry Ford, Vincent set off to do things his own way using inspiration from outside the gun industry to shape the model for his company. So yeah, a convenient story. Although intimidating with the hat, beard and tattoos, Vince is a down to earth weapons professional who loves firearms and the industry in which he works. We were still broke as hell until it actually came out six months later. We appreciate the opportunity. HSWCoreScienceTechnology Published January 30, 2020 13 Views. The star of the Discovery reality show "Sons of Guns" has been forced to surrender his Federal Firearm License after government officials discovered a … I did a majority of their wood work there, and then when I moved on to my next job, I was the only gunsmith for a large retail business in Louisiana. Sons of Guns starts and begin filming. I do love that we have a small retail shop at this location. He was actually our first customer. I couldn’t think of what I wanted in front of Kinetic. How many kids do you have? My mom had a cool take on it that Mesa meaning “table” in Spanish, but a tabletop mountain out west is like an ideal fortress standpoint; it’s got walls that are hard to scale yet it sits on a level platform and sits about everything else. Mesa Kinetic Research LLC 13238 Airline Hwy Gonzales, LA 70737. SAR: Tell us where you’re from? Includes Vickers Tactical AK sling, and class t-shirt. We’re not a police supply store. These are the two Sons of Guns reality TV stars behind bars after being jailed for allegedly beating and abusing a nine-year-old boy. We like riding four wheelers and shooting guns, and watching things go fast, and watching things go bang. She’ll make sure my clothes are clean, and say, “Honey, make sure you bring extra business cards,” but that’s about as far as – you know we’ve got a really good dynamic. I’ve seen a lot of these companies go from nobody to the talk of SHOT Show. Carlos Santana was the guy that gave him the term “boogie” by saying, “Man, this thing really boogies.” As excited as I am that Sons of Guns is back, I will say I’m not crazy about one aspect of the new season: the drama with Vince. It is set up space wise to take a direct impingement gas tube. Finally, after a late night of final assembly by Vincent, the gun gets tested by Tiger with great results. We do not take orders or give price quotes on custom work via Facebook. New fodder for the Sons Of Guns TV show I guess. I’m not a big woodwork guy but I just happen to be really good at it. I’m only here about 8-10 hours a day, but I’m on the computer and making phone calls in-between playing with my kids the rest of the evening. And people say, “Oh, your wife doesn’t have a job?” I’ve done my wife’s job a couple times and I don’t know – and at the same time she doesn’t know how I do what I do and keep on track. So I was actually sitting in my truck outside of Red Jacket waiting to film some interviews for Sons of Guns and trying to come up with the LLC paperwork, and I remembered that moment and I was like Mesa Kinetic Research sounds cool. Thank you for taking the time to speak with us. It wasn’t a storefront, but an office area and a machine shop and warehouse that we did work in. Share Tweet . Charlotte is almost three and Amelia is about a year and a half. People are not what they seem on television and Vince is absolutely no exception to this rule. The series features the work of the weapons store Red Jacket Firearms, located in Baton Rouge (Louisiana, USA). "Sons of Guns" aired from 2011 to 2014 on the Discovery Channel and featured Red Jacket Firearms, a custom gun shop in Baton Rouge. Subscribe 29 Share. SAR: Do you see yourself as a specialist in any particular systems? Months later when I was printing up some business cards that I was taking to SHOT Show, I put Mission Expedience Small Arms underneath, and then I realized that Mission Expedience Small Arms spells Mesa. one of my earliest posts on this website was a gushing article I wrote detailing how different and uniquely special Sons of Guns was.When I wrote my first article about the show, Sons of Guns was in its 16 episode-packed third season, and it was at its best. Comments have not been generated for this article. We did a lot of stuff with Greg Carlson. [1] The series centers on owners Will Hayden and his daughter Stephanie who manufacture and sell custom weapons at Red Jacket Firearms LLC. Baton Rouge, LA (PRWEB) July 15, 2011 Welcome back to the Red Jacket crew! Embed Share. I guess we viewers will never really know all that went on between Will and Vince over the years. We did a lot of traveling, had a lot of meetings, and had a lot of range time with other companies that came into town. The … Glen, Will's friend, finds a rare "coffee grinder" Civil War–era rifle, but its authenticity is questionable. Immediately before gunsmith school I had been working for a machine shop in Southern Michigan, and it was a great bunch of guys but it seemed like all we ever did in our free time was talk about guns. We’re all in the same industry. Maybe it wasn’t even that the business consulting wasn’t something we even got paid for, but we had a lot of people come to us and just say, “Hey, we’re trying to break out, how do we break out?” I’ve lived in Louisiana for more than a decade now and have made my home here. He has written technical manuals on the Kalashnikov platform for two major gunsmith schools, built custom  firearms for foreign heads of state, as well as written a number of articles for mainstream gun magazines. It was a pretty quick transition. Vince: I worked at a place, Reynerson’s Gunsmith Service in North Baton, out by the airport. New content will be added above the current area of focus upon selection The first handgun I’ve ever shot in the late 80s was a Glock 19, and so I’ve always kind of been partial to Glocks as carry guns because I’ve always had good luck with them – you know they’ve always worked real well. Our retail store is open weekdays  10-6 and Saturdays 9-2. I was a managing partner of the business, something that the TV show doesn’t show.
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